CloudFlare D.N.S. Resolvers... (1.1.1.1 & 1.0.0.1)

Greetings Team, Has anyone deployed the aforementioned in your individual networks? A quick test suggests it is quite fast compared with Google's D.N.S. resolvers: *C:\Users\bullutm>ping 1.1.1.1* *Pinging 1.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:* *Reply from 1.1.1.1 <http://1.1.1.1/>: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=61* *Reply from 1.1.1.1 <http://1.1.1.1/>: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=61* *Reply from 1.1.1.1 <http://1.1.1.1/>: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=61* *Reply from 1.1.1.1 <http://1.1.1.1/>: bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=61* *Ping statistics for 1.1.1.1 <http://1.1.1.1/>:* * Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),* *Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:* * Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 4ms* *C:\Users\bullutm>* *-------* *C:\Users\bullutm>tracert 1.1.1.1* *Tracing route to one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1]* *over a maximum of 30 hops:* * 1 4 ms 3 ms 4 ms 10.101.129.254* * 2 6 ms 20 ms 7 ms 10.98.0.165* * 3 7 ms 13 ms 15 ms 10.98.0.233* * 4 7 ms 5 ms 4 ms one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1]* *Trace complete.* *C:\Users\bullutm>* Warm regards, Michael Bullut. --- *Cell:* *+254 723 393 114.**Skype Name:* *Michael Bullut.* *Twitter:* * @Kipsang <http://twitter.com/Kipsang/>* *Blog: http://www.kipsang.com/ <http://www.kipsang.com/>* *E-mail:* *main@kipsang.com <main@kipsang.com>* *---*

Jens Link <lists@quux.de> wrote:
You can use dig -u to get microsecond resolution, e.g. $ dig -u @131.111.8.42 nanog.org | grep time: ;; Query time: 611 usec Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch <dot@dotat.at> http://dotat.at/ work to the benefit of all

For Window’s clients, you might want to try out this freeware GRC tool for benchmarking DNS performance: https://www.grc.com/dns/benchmark.htm Cheers -- Yonatan (Yoni) Radzin yradzin@gmail.com

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:52:07AM +0300, Michael Bullut <main@kipsang.com> wrote a message of 162 lines which said:
Well, you don't test a DNS service with ICMP echo, for reasons you certainly know. Also, do not compare only public resolvers between themselves, also compare with a local resolver (always the closest from the clients).

I recommend that eyeball networks don't run any external recursive server for optimal CDN performance. Yes, some CDNs support other methods, but not all. If not all do, then the requirement remains. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Bullut" <main@kipsang.com> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:52:07 AM Subject: CloudFlare D.N.S. Resolvers... (1.1.1.1 & 1.0.0.1) Greetings Team, Has anyone deployed the aforementioned in your individual networks? A quick test suggests it is quite fast compared with Google's D.N.S. resolvers: C:\Users\bullutm>ping 1.1.1.1 Pinging 1.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 1.1.1.1 : bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=61 Reply from 1.1.1.1 : bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=61 Reply from 1.1.1.1 : bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=61 Reply from 1.1.1.1 : bytes=32 time=4ms TTL=61 Ping statistics for 1.1.1.1 : Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 4ms C:\Users\bullutm> ------- C:\Users\bullutm>tracert 1.1.1.1 Tracing route to one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 4 ms 3 ms 4 ms 10.101.129.254 2 6 ms 20 ms 7 ms 10.98.0.165 3 7 ms 13 ms 15 ms 10.98.0.233 4 7 ms 5 ms 4 ms one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1] Trace complete. C:\Users\bullutm> Warm regards, Michael Bullut. --- Cell: +254 723 393 114. Skype Name: Michael Bullut. Twitter: @Kipsang Blog: http://www.kipsang.com/ E-mail: main@kipsang.com ---

* nanog@ics-il.net (Mike Hammett) [Wed 26 Sep 2018, 13:14 CEST]:
+1 https://blog.powerdns.com/2018/09/04/on-firefox-moving-dns-to-a-third-party/ -- Niels.

Seems like a good reason to not use Firefox. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: niels=nanog@bakker.net To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 6:34:44 AM Subject: Re: CloudFlare D.N.S. Resolvers... (1.1.1.1 & 1.0.0.1) * nanog@ics-il.net (Mike Hammett) [Wed 26 Sep 2018, 13:14 CEST]:
+1 https://blog.powerdns.com/2018/09/04/on-firefox-moving-dns-to-a-third-party/ -- Niels.

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 10:52:07 +0300, Michael Bullut said:
Has anyone deployed the aforementioned in your individual networks? A quick test suggests it is quite fast compared with Google's D.N.S. resolvers:
*Reply from 1.1.1.1 <http://1.1.1.1/>: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=61*
3ms indicates you're hitting an instance that is fairly close by, network-wise. Looking at your traceroute: 3 7 ms 13 ms 15 ms 10.98.0.233 4 7 ms 5 ms 4 ms one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1] The instance is apparently on the same subnet as your CGN exit point. As such, unless CloudFlare is deploying a *lot* of anycast instances, most people are not going to have the joyous experience you have. presence there is 4 hops and also 6.9ms away and traceroute is showing jitter larger than the difference between our router and either DNS service...

valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu wrote on 9/26/2018 1:44 PM:
I'm not a proponent of using 1.1.1.1, but CloudFlare does have a good CDN: Pinging 1.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=58 Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=58 Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=58 Reply from 1.1.1.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=58 Tracing route to one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxx 2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxx 3 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms xxxx 4 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 209.152.151.8 5 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 38.140.136.177 6 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 38.140.136.74 7 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1] Trace complete. dig @1.1.1.1 cloudflare.com | grep 'Query time' ;; Query time: 1 msec dig @1.1.1.1 nanog.org | grep 'Query time' ;; Query time: 28 msec
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Blake Hudson
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Colin Johnston
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Grant Taylor
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Jens Link
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John Levine
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Josh Luthman
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Michael Bullut
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Mike Hammett
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Ross Tajvar
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Stephane Bortzmeyer
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Tony Finch
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Yoni Radzin