Re: Notes on the Internet for Bell Heads
Sean, My vote goes for... How to build an Internet Service Company From A to Z... All you need to know to plan, build and market an Internet service company. Tips and tricks from the inside. Charles H. Burke July '96 ISBN: 0-935563-02-4 And I quote...
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It's a classic! As for driving in the UK and US... I have explained the value of roundabouts to many, many Americans and they still don't get it. Being British, but living in the US... I just don't get why they are not used here. You will have to put up with the face that Bell-heads and Net-heads just doing things differently and not understanding why the other side prefers an opposite method! Martin ---------------- At 03:09 PM 7/11/2002 -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
Has anyone written the equivalent of the old Bell Systems Notes on the Network for the Internet? A couple of books come close, Hueston's ISP Survival Guide and Cisco's ISP Essentials. But there doesn't seem to be anything that helps Bell heads understand what switching, routing or signaling means on the Internet. There are a lot of words which are spelled alike, but mean very different things in the Bell world and the Internet world.
I've been thinking of it like driving in England or the USA. We drive on different sides of the road. Its safe until you get someone who doesn't know the rules of the road driving on the other side of the Atlantic. So how do you explain the rules of the Internet road to someone used to driving on the telephone system?
... But there doesn't seem to
be anything that helps Bell heads understand what switching, routing or signaling means on the Internet. There are a lot of words which are spelled alike, but mean very different things in the Bell world and the Internet world.
I've been thinking of it like driving in England or the USA. We drive on different sides of the road. Its safe until you get someone who doesn't know the rules of the road driving on the other side of the Atlantic. So how do you explain the rules of the Internet road to someone used to driving on the telephone system?
Padlipsky's Elements of Networking Style may be the funiest technical book ever written. It is a really vicious critique of the whole OSI approach, written mid-80s. Some chapters are also available as RFCs, I think 871-875. "If you know what you're doing, three layers are enough. If not, even 17 won't save you."
Absolutely dead on, Sandy. And Padlipsky is still available. See my review in the most recen issue of The Internet Protocol Journal (June 2002). M. A. Padlipsky, The Elements of Networking Style. ISBN 0595088791 (orig. 1985; iUniverse, 2000) Peter ----------------------------------------------------------- Peter H. Salus Chief Knowledge Officer, Matrix NetSystems Ste. 501W 1106 Clayton Lane Austin, TX 78723 +1 512 451-7602 -----------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:51:34 -0400 Sandy Harris <pashley@storm.ca> wrote:
Padlipsky's Elements of Networking Style may be the funiest technical book ever written. It is a really vicious critique of the whole OSI approach, written mid-80s. Some chapters are also available as RFCs, I think 871-875.
yes, 871 is a personal favorite of mine; i've photocopied it and passed it out in classes i've taught. richard -- Richard Welty rwelty@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking 518-573-7592 Unix, Linux, IP Network Engineering, Security
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