On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 05:53:04PM -0700, JC Dill wrote:

At 07:17 AM 10/4/2003, St. Clair, James wrote:

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I would add that what you perceive as a "diverse group" is still a realtively small sub-set of all the internet operations.

Be that as it may, this group is *anything* but "close knit". This is as unified as I've seen nanog participants on any matter (technical or otherwise) over the years that I've been on nanog. That alone speaks volumes about the "technical community's general opinion" of Verisign's actions in this matter.

And to be honest, most / all of the non-technical people I've talked to find the "service" annoying and confusing as well. While "we" may understand the reasons it's bad on a deeper level, have a better understanding of what a horrible, unethical company Verisign is in the first place,and take the issue more personally, I haven't seen any evidence that the "average person on the street" appreciates the altruistic service that Verislime is providing out of the goodness of its heart. The only people that reeally benefit from Sitefinder in any way are Verisign and its stockholders. I hate Sitefinder even more than I did before after an unfortunate domain expiration mishap the other day - Sitefinder changed something that would have been an embarassing inconvenience into a much more unpleasant and damaging situation (with mail that probably would have been temporarily deferred getting rejected outright, customers confused why our site was all of the sudden pointing to Verisign). -- "Since when is skepticism un-American? Dissent's not treason but they talk like it's the same..." (Sleater-Kinney - "Combat Rock")