Best recommendation for out of band router access?
Hello, Obviously dial up is no longer practical for most applications. I have a some of my gear co-located in a facility in downtown Los Angeles where the idea of paying a monthly for a cross connect to get a phone line is just not practical. Can anyone recommend an idea that's not super cost prohibitive that would involve some kind of 4G or 5G Sim with a static IP address that is not CGNAT? I'm running OpenBSD for my Edge routers, so plugging in a USB is not guaranteed, so is there a product that might have some kind of a bridge functionality where it will establish a mobile IP connection and then plug into my switch? Also open to reasonably priced provider recommendations. I don't need a lot of bandwidth since this would mostly just be SSH or maybe openvpn traffic. If you know of service providers as well as recommended products, that would be ideal. I don't want to spend thousands, but a few hundred dollars on gear seems reasonable. Very best, Jonathan Jonathan Kalbfeld office: +1 310 317 7933 fax: +1 310 317 7901 home: +1 310 317 7909 mobile: +1 310 227 1662 ThoughtWave Technologies, Inc. Studio City, CA 91604 https://thoughtwave.com View our network at https://bgp.he.net/AS54380 +1 844 42-LINUX
Jonathan, Depending on where you are located specifically, you may be able to get a copper or fiber cross connect to a provider that can give you a 100Mbit port, or something with a very low commit on a 1Gbit port. Depending on the company/person, trading out of band ports can go a long way too. Another option is Mikrotik has a few devices that accept SIM cards, and can work with providers like Google Fi and others. The advantage of the Mikrotik or *NIX system is, it can run a Tailscale or ZeroTier client, eliminating any need for a static IP. Kind regards, Ryan Hamel ________________________________ From: Jonathan Kalbfeld via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2025 4:16 PM To: nanog <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Jonathan Kalbfeld <jonathan@thoughtwave.com> Subject: Best recommendation for out of band router access? Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. Hello, Obviously dial up is no longer practical for most applications. I have a some of my gear co-located in a facility in downtown Los Angeles where the idea of paying a monthly for a cross connect to get a phone line is just not practical. Can anyone recommend an idea that's not super cost prohibitive that would involve some kind of 4G or 5G Sim with a static IP address that is not CGNAT? I'm running OpenBSD for my Edge routers, so plugging in a USB is not guaranteed, so is there a product that might have some kind of a bridge functionality where it will establish a mobile IP connection and then plug into my switch? Also open to reasonably priced provider recommendations. I don't need a lot of bandwidth since this would mostly just be SSH or maybe openvpn traffic. If you know of service providers as well as recommended products, that would be ideal. I don't want to spend thousands, but a few hundred dollars on gear seems reasonable. Very best, Jonathan Jonathan Kalbfeld office: +1 310 317 7933 fax: +1 310 317 7901 home: +1 310 317 7909 mobile: +1 310 227 1662 ThoughtWave Technologies, Inc. Studio City, CA 91604 https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthoughtwave.com%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C0bc2145d10064b0b0fbd08ddfbc0674f%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638943525978343319%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=dLqFcGc6P01nfu00Rbyrtl9pFBsITLTY4wjoLXiWrRY%3D&reserved=0<https://thoughtwave.com/> View our network at https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbgp.he.net%2FAS54380&data=05%7C02%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C0bc2145d10064b0b0fbd08ddfbc0674f%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638943525978387615%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ODdQWZTB5cXhLNf9xROYSpDAS1Bp5F4UmrFsZWK6eWw%3D&reserved=0<https://bgp.he.net/AS54380> +1 844 42-LINUX _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.nanog.org%2Farchives%2Flist%2Fnanog%40lists.nanog.org%2Fmessage%2FJMUJYP5Q5HWP44V2MLGPGTMMPMJYPL3K%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C0bc2145d10064b0b0fbd08ddfbc0674f%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638943525978405799%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JoSrn2NkW1RSFaL14MJ1J5dXSXAFYS3kxLOIDDTgzhk%3D&reserved=0<https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/JMUJYP5Q5HWP44V2MLGPGTMMPMJYPL3K/>
acm7008+thingsmobile $2/mo public ip& sim ($0.02/mb) On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 4:16 PM Jonathan Kalbfeld via NANOG < nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
Hello,
Obviously dial up is no longer practical for most applications. I have a some of my gear co-located in a facility in downtown Los Angeles where the idea of paying a monthly for a cross connect to get a phone line is just not practical.
Can anyone recommend an idea that's not super cost prohibitive that would involve some kind of 4G or 5G Sim with a static IP address that is not CGNAT?
I'm running OpenBSD for my Edge routers, so plugging in a USB is not guaranteed, so is there a product that might have some kind of a bridge functionality where it will establish a mobile IP connection and then plug into my switch?
Also open to reasonably priced provider recommendations. I don't need a lot of bandwidth since this would mostly just be SSH or maybe openvpn traffic.
If you know of service providers as well as recommended products, that would be ideal. I don't want to spend thousands, but a few hundred dollars on gear seems reasonable.
Very best,
Jonathan
Jonathan Kalbfeld
office: +1 310 317 7933 fax: +1 310 317 7901 home: +1 310 317 7909 mobile: +1 310 227 1662
ThoughtWave Technologies, Inc. Studio City, CA 91604
View our network at
+1 844 42-LINUX
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We use Opengear serial console devices. T-Mobile has the best pricing for static IP for our area. ~$15/month unlimited data. Your coverage may vary 😊 There are also some cellular router devices from the providers that have an inside LAN port that you could connect to your router(s) if that is sufficient, rather than using serial console. thanks, -Randy -- Randy Carpenter Vice President - IT Services First Network Group, Inc. 800-578-6381, Opt. 1 http://www.network1.net From: Jonathan Kalbfeld via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2025 at 19:16 To: nanog <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Jonathan Kalbfeld <jonathan@thoughtwave.com> Subject: Best recommendation for out of band router access? Hello, Obviously dial up is no longer practical for most applications. I have a some of my gear co-located in a facility in downtown Los Angeles where the idea of paying a monthly for a cross connect to get a phone line is just not practical. Can anyone recommend an idea that's not super cost prohibitive that would involve some kind of 4G or 5G Sim with a static IP address that is not CGNAT? I'm running OpenBSD for my Edge routers, so plugging in a USB is not guaranteed, so is there a product that might have some kind of a bridge functionality where it will establish a mobile IP connection and then plug into my switch? Also open to reasonably priced provider recommendations. I don't need a lot of bandwidth since this would mostly just be SSH or maybe openvpn traffic. If you know of service providers as well as recommended products, that would be ideal. I don't want to spend thousands, but a few hundred dollars on gear seems reasonable. Very best, Jonathan Jonathan Kalbfeld office: +1 310 317 7933 fax: +1 310 317 7901 home: +1 310 317 7909 mobile: +1 310 227 1662 ThoughtWave Technologies, Inc. Studio City, CA 91604 https://thoughtwave.com View our network at https://bgp.he.net/AS54380 +1 844 42-LINUX _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/JMUJYP5Q...
I'm using a 4G/5G/9G Mikrotik that tunnels into a router at the office. This backdoors me into a remote network. I spend $15/mo for the service and I think the tik was $100? On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 8:00 PM Randy Carpenter via NANOG < nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
We use Opengear serial console devices. T-Mobile has the best pricing for static IP for our area. ~$15/month unlimited data. Your coverage may vary 😊
There are also some cellular router devices from the providers that have an inside LAN port that you could connect to your router(s) if that is sufficient, rather than using serial console.
thanks, -Randy
-- Randy Carpenter Vice President - IT Services First Network Group, Inc. 800-578-6381, Opt. 1 http://www.network1.net
From: Jonathan Kalbfeld via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2025 at 19:16 To: nanog <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Jonathan Kalbfeld <jonathan@thoughtwave.com> Subject: Best recommendation for out of band router access?
Hello,
Obviously dial up is no longer practical for most applications. I have a some of my gear co-located in a facility in downtown Los Angeles where the idea of paying a monthly for a cross connect to get a phone line is just not practical.
Can anyone recommend an idea that's not super cost prohibitive that would involve some kind of 4G or 5G Sim with a static IP address that is not CGNAT?
I'm running OpenBSD for my Edge routers, so plugging in a USB is not guaranteed, so is there a product that might have some kind of a bridge functionality where it will establish a mobile IP connection and then plug into my switch?
Also open to reasonably priced provider recommendations. I don't need a lot of bandwidth since this would mostly just be SSH or maybe openvpn traffic.
If you know of service providers as well as recommended products, that would be ideal. I don't want to spend thousands, but a few hundred dollars on gear seems reasonable.
Very best,
Jonathan
Jonathan Kalbfeld
office: +1 310 317 7933 fax: +1 310 317 7901 home: +1 310 317 7909 mobile: +1 310 227 1662
ThoughtWave Technologies, Inc. Studio City, CA 91604
View our network at
+1 844 42-LINUX
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Sounds like a legacy T-Mobile plan to have something that low for unlimited data, and with a static IP. Do you have a link to this plan? Ryan Hamel ________________________________ From: Randy Carpenter via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2025 4:59 PM To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen@network1.net> Subject: Re: Best recommendation for out of band router access? Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. We use Opengear serial console devices. T-Mobile has the best pricing for static IP for our area. ~$15/month unlimited data. Your coverage may vary 😊 There are also some cellular router devices from the providers that have an inside LAN port that you could connect to your router(s) if that is sufficient, rather than using serial console. thanks, -Randy -- Randy Carpenter Vice President - IT Services First Network Group, Inc. 800-578-6381, Opt. 1 https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.network1.net%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C3a4a6069429f40bfe63a08ddfbc681a2%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638943552190912948%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZNOePELbt8NBV2mD7u3u6nse5fHCwdF3v9iub1WIbGI%3D&reserved=0<http://www.network1.net/> From: Jonathan Kalbfeld via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2025 at 19:16 To: nanog <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Jonathan Kalbfeld <jonathan@thoughtwave.com> Subject: Best recommendation for out of band router access? Hello, Obviously dial up is no longer practical for most applications. I have a some of my gear co-located in a facility in downtown Los Angeles where the idea of paying a monthly for a cross connect to get a phone line is just not practical. Can anyone recommend an idea that's not super cost prohibitive that would involve some kind of 4G or 5G Sim with a static IP address that is not CGNAT? I'm running OpenBSD for my Edge routers, so plugging in a USB is not guaranteed, so is there a product that might have some kind of a bridge functionality where it will establish a mobile IP connection and then plug into my switch? Also open to reasonably priced provider recommendations. I don't need a lot of bandwidth since this would mostly just be SSH or maybe openvpn traffic. If you know of service providers as well as recommended products, that would be ideal. I don't want to spend thousands, but a few hundred dollars on gear seems reasonable. Very best, Jonathan Jonathan Kalbfeld office: +1 310 317 7933 fax: +1 310 317 7901 home: +1 310 317 7909 mobile: +1 310 227 1662 ThoughtWave Technologies, Inc. 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Might be a business-only plan… It is $10 for a “2GB” plan. Speeds are slowed after 2GB, but I don’t really care if my connection to a 9600bps serial console is slowed to 200kb/s 😊. $3 extra for the static IP and $1.40 for taxes. Plan code is: T4B SC NA MI 2GB It is possible that it is no longer available for new lines… we’ve had it for a couple of years. thanks, -Randy -- Randy Carpenter Vice President - IT Services First Network Group, Inc. 800-578-6381, Opt. 1 http://www.network1.net<http://www.network1.net/> From: Ryan Hamel <ryan@rkhtech.org> Date: Thursday, September 25, 2025 at 01:03 To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen@network1.net> Subject: Re: Best recommendation for out of band router access? Sounds like a legacy T-Mobile plan to have something that low for unlimited data, and with a static IP. Do you have a link to this plan? Ryan Hamel ________________________________ From: Randy Carpenter via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2025 4:59 PM To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen@network1.net> Subject: Re: Best recommendation for out of band router access? Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. We use Opengear serial console devices. T-Mobile has the best pricing for static IP for our area. ~$15/month unlimited data. Your coverage may vary 😊 There are also some cellular router devices from the providers that have an inside LAN port that you could connect to your router(s) if that is sufficient, rather than using serial console. thanks, -Randy -- Randy Carpenter Vice President - IT Services First Network Group, Inc. 800-578-6381, Opt. 1 https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.network1.net%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cryan%40rkhtech.org%7C3a4a6069429f40bfe63a08ddfbc681a2%7C81c24bb4f9ec4739ba4d25c42594d996%7C0%7C0%7C638943552190912948%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZNOePELbt8NBV2mD7u3u6nse5fHCwdF3v9iub1WIbGI%3D&reserved=0<http://www.network1.net/> From: Jonathan Kalbfeld via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2025 at 19:16 To: nanog <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Jonathan Kalbfeld <jonathan@thoughtwave.com> Subject: Best recommendation for out of band router access? Hello, Obviously dial up is no longer practical for most applications. I have a some of my gear co-located in a facility in downtown Los Angeles where the idea of paying a monthly for a cross connect to get a phone line is just not practical. Can anyone recommend an idea that's not super cost prohibitive that would involve some kind of 4G or 5G Sim with a static IP address that is not CGNAT? I'm running OpenBSD for my Edge routers, so plugging in a USB is not guaranteed, so is there a product that might have some kind of a bridge functionality where it will establish a mobile IP connection and then plug into my switch? Also open to reasonably priced provider recommendations. I don't need a lot of bandwidth since this would mostly just be SSH or maybe openvpn traffic. If you know of service providers as well as recommended products, that would be ideal. I don't want to spend thousands, but a few hundred dollars on gear seems reasonable. Very best, Jonathan Jonathan Kalbfeld office: +1 310 317 7933 fax: +1 310 317 7901 home: +1 310 317 7909 mobile: +1 310 227 1662 ThoughtWave Technologies, Inc. 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We typically use a mikrotik LTAP orChateau depending on the location. with a mix of LTE providers depending on location and don't worry about static IPs. They all have wireguard connections back to a vps hosted outside our network. In Data centers we use one of the IOT sim providers that is sub $10 a month mainly because the LTE is just used to get the router on the datacenters WIFI. After that if we need to download firmware or anything that would be of any size its not over the LTE. In our remote sites we started using US mobile as you can pool your data plans and they provide access to ATT, T-mobile, and VZ networks. You can load all 3 sims in a router ship it and then use which network network is best after its on site. Trey On 9/24/25 6:16 PM, Jonathan Kalbfeld via NANOG wrote:
Hello,
Obviously dial up is no longer practical for most applications. I have a some of my gear co-located in a facility in downtown Los Angeles where the idea of paying a monthly for a cross connect to get a phone line is just not practical.
Can anyone recommend an idea that's not super cost prohibitive that would involve some kind of 4G or 5G Sim with a static IP address that is not CGNAT?
I'm running OpenBSD for my Edge routers, so plugging in a USB is not guaranteed, so is there a product that might have some kind of a bridge functionality where it will establish a mobile IP connection and then plug into my switch?
Also open to reasonably priced provider recommendations. I don't need a lot of bandwidth since this would mostly just be SSH or maybe openvpn traffic.
If you know of service providers as well as recommended products, that would be ideal. I don't want to spend thousands, but a few hundred dollars on gear seems reasonable.
Very best,
Jonathan
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I've had customers who wanted to run more than just a console server on their OOB network and wanted a local firewall to put some controls around it. The Juniper branch SRXes can do 4G on an MPIM and Mist makes it interesting: you can give the boxes an in-band L3VPN and use that plus the OOB feed (wired or LTE) as two paths for the Mist SD-WAN back to your headend locations. They can also run Juniper's remote access VPN locally at each site at the same time if you want, all with security enforcement local to the site. Overkill for a lot of shops but depending on what you want, and maybe how much of a Juniper shop you are, it's an interesting solution. Regards, Ryan -------- Original Message -------- On 2025-09-25 09:39, Trey Scarborough via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
We typically use a mikrotik LTAP orChateau depending on the location. with a mix of LTE providers depending on location and don't worry about static IPs. They all have wireguard connections back to a vps hosted outside our network. In Data centers we use one of the IOT sim providers that is sub $10 a month mainly because the LTE is just used to get the router on the datacenters WIFI. After that if we need to download firmware or anything that would be of any size its not over the LTE. In our remote sites we started using US mobile as you can pool your data plans and they provide access to ATT, T-mobile, and VZ networks. You can load all 3 sims in a router ship it and then use which network network is best after its on site.
Trey
On 9/24/25 6:16 PM, Jonathan Kalbfeld via NANOG wrote:
Hello,
Obviously dial up is no longer practical for most applications. I have a some of my gear co-located in a facility in downtown Los Angeles where the idea of paying a monthly for a cross connect to get a phone line is just not practical.
Can anyone recommend an idea that's not super cost prohibitive that would involve some kind of 4G or 5G Sim with a static IP address that is not CGNAT?
I'm running OpenBSD for my Edge routers, so plugging in a USB is not guaranteed, so is there a product that might have some kind of a bridge functionality where it will establish a mobile IP connection and then plug into my switch?
Also open to reasonably priced provider recommendations. I don't need a lot of bandwidth since this would mostly just be SSH or maybe openvpn traffic.
If you know of service providers as well as recommended products, that would be ideal. I don't want to spend thousands, but a few hundred dollars on gear seems reasonable.
Very best,
Jonathan
Jonathan Kalbfeld
office: +1 310 317 7933 fax: +1 310 317 7901 home: +1 310 317 7909 mobile: +1 310 227 1662
ThoughtWave Technologies, Inc. Studio City, CA 91604
View our network at
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This may be a tad low budget - but - assuming you can even get a steady reliable signal at your Data Center, you can try Franklin T9/T10/R910 hotspot device which runs off USB with battery removed 24x7. Will use a 4G connection and static IP through T-mobile. You can connect a UMPC or old Dell laptop with RS-232 serial or USB console cable to your KVM device. We use this at some remote colocation client sites and it has worked perfectly for over a decade. In the colocation space you can also try a cross connect to another AS, some are willing to barter a simply 10-100M connection to one another over copper in the colo space, so both parties can gain access to out of band. However this could get pricey with sites that charge $375 like Equinix. James Lee mobile: +1 929.424.9137 direct: +1 855.508.7648 Metanet™ Data Center, Colo and Cloud 111 8th Avenue FL12 New York City, NY 10011 https://metanethosting.com/ View our network at https://bgp.he.net/AS11070
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