I guess whois is broken again, at least partially... I was hunting the HylaFax home page, and went off to whois(1) 'tpc.int'... who aren't listed. There isn't something I should know, is there? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592
On Fri, 26 Dec 1997, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 14:19:06 -1000 From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Here we go again...
I guess whois is broken again, at least partially... I was hunting the HylaFax home page, and went off to whois(1) 'tpc.int'... who aren't listed. There isn't something I should know, is there?
Cheers, -- jra
Jay: Actually, this isn't a WHOIS related problem.. (although WHOIS 'could' be down as of late.. ) TPC.INT is an internal alias at Cambridge University. TPC.INT is not a FQDN.. Best. -----
> I guess whois is broken again, at least partially... I was hunting the > HylaFax home page, and went off to whois(1) 'tpc.int'... who aren't > listed. There isn't something I should know, is there? > Actually, this isn't a WHOIS related problem.. (although WHOIS 'could' be down as of late.. ) TPC.INT is an internal alias at Cambridge University. TPC.INT is not a FQDN.. It was real when I was playing with internet fax many moons ago. It was a system that Marshall Rose (among others) setup to route faxes across the internet to a "close" gateway that would spit it out into the telephone system at minimal cost. TPC.INT in this case stood for "The Phone Company" and was Marshall's "little" joke since it was using the Internet to deprive them of income (assuming they worked that out :-) "Hosts" inside that domain were associated with the reverse international phone number of the area you were serving and the system used a longest suffix match to get to the closest gateway. Mark.
Robert Mathews wrote:
TPC.INT is an internal alias at Cambridge University. TPC.INT is not a FQDN..
As we host www.tpc.int I feel I should bring to your attention an error in at least one of the above statements. Regards, Andrew -- Andrew Bangs, Demon Internet Ltd andrewb@demon.net http://www.demon.net/ http://www.demon.nl/
TPC.INT is an internal alias at Cambridge University. TPC.INT is not a FQDN.. As we host www.tpc.int I feel I should bring to your attention an error in at least one of the above statements.
Indeed, all three statements are incorrect. It is not an alias, Darren is still hosted by Oxford, and TPC.INT is clearly an FQDN. This is supposed to be an operators' forum, not a betting parlor. USE the technology. tpc.int. 86244 SOA hewes.icl.ox.ac.uk. tpcadmin.info.tpc.int. ( 97120101 ; serial 21600 ; refresh (6 hours) 1800 ; retry (30 mins) 604800 ; expire (7 days) 86400 ) ; minimum (1 day) traceroute to info.tpc.int (163.1.35.69), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 psg.com (147.28.2.1) 14.756ms 5.744ms 5.644ms 2 gw (147.28.0.58) 14.223ms 7.843ms 8.870ms 3 fr0.sea1.verio.net (205.238.52.65) 14.942ms 12.450ms 12.543ms 4 sea1.pdx1.verio.net (205.238.56.29) 25.682ms 17.069ms 16.773ms 5 pdx1.pdx0.verio.net (205.238.56.53) 18.136ms 17.073ms 16.890ms 6 pdx0-2.paix-2.verio.net (205.238.56.46) 43.503ms 43.071ms 42.994ms 7 paix.paix1.verio.net (205.238.56.90) 43.504ms 31.577ms 31.636ms 8 paix1.mae-west1.verio.net (205.238.56.93) 57.321ms 33.245ms 45.078ms 9 mae-west1.mae-west.verio.net (205.238.56.81) 57.328ms 44.683ms 56.709ms 10 sl-mae-w-F0/0.sprintlink.net (198.32.136.11) 47.357ms 35.753ms 47.419ms 11 sl-bb2-stk-2-0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.10.45) 64.017ms 62.217ms 63.192ms 12 sl-bb11-stk-4-2-155M.sprintlink.net (144.232.4.69) 52.021ms 52.319ms 62.116ms 13 sl-bb10-pen-1-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.57) 95.365ms 107.108ms 97.071ms 14 sl-gw16-pen-8-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.5.98) 96.947ms 109.049ms 101.482ms 15 sl-teleglob-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.164.62) 122.820ms 116.964ms 104.688ms 16 gin-ppt-bb1.Teleglobe.net (207.45.199.234) 115.794ms 131.736ms 123.019ms 17 JANET-gw.Teleglobe.net (207.45.206.242) 200.660ms 220.598ms 213.519ms 18 smds-gw.ulcc.ja.net (193.63.94.12) 214.731ms 209.339ms 225.969ms 19 smds-gw.ox.ja.net (193.63.203.73) 205.577ms 218.752ms 213.982ms 20 nbot1.backbone.ox.ac.uk (192.76.35.41) 227.026ms 244.808ms 218.382ms 21 hewes.icl.ox.ac.uk (163.1.35.69) 216.577ms 220.664ms 212.239ms randy
On Fri, Dec 26, 1997 at 07:19:06PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
I guess whois is broken again, at least partially... I was hunting the HylaFax home page, and went off to whois(1) 'tpc.int'... who aren't listed. There isn't something I should know, is there?
The int TLD is not handled by the InterNIC, it's handled by USC-ISI, as revealed by a query of InterNIC's servers. But you can't do a whois of tpc.int using nii.isi.edu, the whois server that you use to do whois queries on .US subdomains. Perhaps you should ask ISI why they don't provide whois info, or perhaps you can ask who does?? -- New Age Consulting Service, Inc. 815 Superior Ave #425, Cleveland OH 44114 **FLAT RATE** ISDN Dialups Available In Cleveland and Akron; soon in Ravenna Surf using 128K ISDN for $37.50 a month! Phone: 216-619-2000/1-888-273-NACS Steve Sobol (sjsobol @ nacs.net) http://www.nacs.net/support
On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 01:13:21AM -0500, Steve Sobol wrote:
On Fri, Dec 26, 1997 at 07:19:06PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
I guess whois is broken again, at least partially... I was hunting the HylaFax home page, and went off to whois(1) 'tpc.int'... who aren't listed. There isn't something I should know, is there?
The int TLD is not handled by the InterNIC, it's handled by USC-ISI, as revealed by a query of InterNIC's servers.
Aha! Hadn't even thought about that...
But you can't do a whois of tpc.int using nii.isi.edu, the whois server that you use to do whois queries on .US subdomains.
Indeed?
Perhaps you should ask ISI why they don't provide whois info, or perhaps you can ask who does??
That would be a Bill Manning question, wouldn't it? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592
Hello All, On Sun, 28 Dec 1997, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
On Sun, Dec 28, 1997 at 01:13:21AM -0500, Steve Sobol wrote:
On Fri, Dec 26, 1997 at 07:19:06PM -0500, Jay R. Ashworth wrote:
I guess whois is broken again, at least partially... I was hunting the HylaFax home page, and went off to whois(1) 'tpc.int'... who aren't listed. There isn't something I should know, is there?
The int TLD is not handled by the InterNIC, it's handled by USC-ISI, as revealed by a query of InterNIC's servers.
Aha! Hadn't even thought about that...
But you can't do a whois of tpc.int using nii.isi.edu, the whois server that you use to do whois queries on .US subdomains.
Well a rwhois(client) call to nii.isi.edu done thusly, rwhois -h nii.isi.edu:43 fp.k12.wa.us Returns : Referral Whois (RWhois) spec version 1.0 (InterNIC V-1.0BETA4) Connecting to [nii.isi.edu] port [43] -> command line server RWhois Server at nii-server.isi.edu version V-1.0: Connecting to [rwhois.internic.net] port [4321] Punt referral to higher authority ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Connecting to [rwhois] port [0] Punt referral to higher authority <ERROR> Can't find host 'rwhois'. Punt to higher authority , Hunh.... ! It seems they don't supply whois info for areas below the us. ? Os is it more on the line that they delegate to 'someone' but then don't supply who someone is thru whois ?
Indeed?
Perhaps you should ask ISI why they don't provide whois info, or perhaps you can ask who does??
That would be a Bill Manning question, wouldn't it?
Well Bill ??????
Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth jra@baylink.com Member of the Technical Staff Unsolicited Commercial Emailers Sued The Suncoast Freenet "Two words: Darth Doogie." -- Jason Colby, Tampa Bay, Florida on alt.fan.heinlein +1 813 790 7592 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Me too Just not on News
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