Verizon Postmaster contact?
Hi, I see VZ was not kind enough to put any contact info in Jared's NOC list. They are currently blocking all mail from an ISP customer of mine (based on the envelope From, not IP), and I need to get someone on the phone to clear this up. Sorry for the OT. Charles -- Charles Sprickman spork@inch.com
My understanding is that they started breaking the RFC by refusing mail with null <> senders last week. Based on past experience, I wasn't too surprised. -bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Sprickman Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:50 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Verizon Postmaster contact? Hi, I see VZ was not kind enough to put any contact info in Jared's NOC list. They are currently blocking all mail from an ISP customer of mine (based on the envelope From, not IP), and I need to get someone on the phone to clear this up. Sorry for the OT. Charles -- Charles Sprickman spork@inch.com
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Bob German wrote:
My understanding is that they started breaking the RFC by refusing mail with null <> senders last week.
Based on past experience, I wasn't too surprised.
Heh. Doesn't seem to be that: spork@green[~]$ telnet relay.verizon.net 25 Trying 206.46.170.12... Connected to relay.verizon.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 sc001.verizon.net MailPass SMTP server v1.0.6 - 103003062626JY ready Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:00:11 -0600 mail from: spork@spork.us 250 Sender <spork@spork.us> OK rset 250 Ok resetting state mail from: spork@bway.net 550 You are not allowed to send mail:sc001.verizon.net rset 250 Ok resetting state mail from: <spork@bway.net> sporker 550 You are not allowed to send mail:sc001.verizon.net quit 221 sc001.verizon.net closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. We receive very very few spam complaints, and spamcop has been silent on us for at least a month. About the only spam I've been made aware of is from trojaned dsl customers, but we cut that off when notified. So I'm at a loss as to what this is all about... Thanks, Charles
-bob
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Sprickman Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:50 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Verizon Postmaster contact?
Hi,
I see VZ was not kind enough to put any contact info in Jared's NOC list. They are currently blocking all mail from an ISP customer of mine (based on the envelope From, not IP), and I need to get someone on the phone to clear this up.
Sorry for the OT.
Charles
-- Charles Sprickman spork@inch.com
Bob German writes on 11/3/2003 2:54 PM:
My understanding is that they started breaking the RFC by refusing mail with null <> senders last week.
Based on past experience, I wasn't too surprised.
Doesn't look like they are doing this. suresh@frodo 01:31:15 [~]$ dnsmx verizon.net 0 relay.verizon.net suresh@frodo 01:31:23 [~]$ telnet relay.verizon.net 25 Trying 206.46.170.12... Connected to relay.verizon.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 sc011.verizon.net MailPass SMTP server v1.0.6 - 103003062626JY ready Mon, 3 Nov 2003 14:01:28 -0600 ehlo frodo.hserus.net 250-sc011.verizon.net 250-8BITMIME 250 SIZE 20971520 mail from: <> 250 Sender <> OK rcpt to: <postmaster@verizon.net> 250 Recipient <postmaster@verizon.net> Ok rset 250 Ok resetting state quit 221 sc011.verizon.net closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. Another thing - verizon is fairly responsive and does have some clued people in there. I have forwarded this thread to a friend in Verizon's postmaster desk. srs -- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com security and antispam operations
I see VZ was not kind enough to put any contact info in Jared's NOC list. They are currently blocking all mail from an ISP customer of mine (based on the envelope From, not IP), and I need to get someone on the phone to clear this up.
Verizon is listed in EDDB; I think that I've made this offer here before, but anybody who'd like to participate in EDDB, and who otherwise qualifies, can have a healthy "Nanog Discount", or even be listed only (no access) for free. EDDB is at http://www.isipp.com/eddb.php In the meantime, Charles, may I forward your note to the Verizon contact? Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. President/CEO Institute for Spam & Internet Public Policy Professor of Law, Lincoln Law School of SJ
I am working on the issue(s) now. -------------------------- Dennis Dayman Verizon Internet Services Operations Security and Legal Compliance --------------------------
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:24 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Verizon Postmaster contact?
I see VZ was not kind enough to put any contact info in Jared's NOC list. They are currently blocking all mail from an ISP customer of mine (based on the envelope From, not IP), and I need to get someone on the phone to clear this up.
Verizon is listed in EDDB; I think that I've made this offer here before, but anybody who'd like to participate in EDDB, and who otherwise qualifies, can have a healthy "Nanog Discount", or even be listed only (no access) for free.
EDDB is at http://www.isipp.com/eddb.php
In the meantime, Charles, may I forward your note to the Verizon contact?
Anne
Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. President/CEO Institute for Spam & Internet Public Policy Professor of Law, Lincoln Law School of SJ
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Dennis Dayman wrote:
I am working on the issue(s) now.
The only problem is, you're not getting my replies because you are also now deferring mail from this ISP as well... It sounds like something is either a bit overzealous, or more likely, broken. Anyone else want to dig around for VZ deferrals? Thanks, Charles
-------------------------- Dennis Dayman Verizon Internet Services Operations Security and Legal Compliance --------------------------
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:24 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Verizon Postmaster contact?
I see VZ was not kind enough to put any contact info in Jared's NOC list. They are currently blocking all mail from an ISP customer of mine (based on the envelope From, not IP), and I need to get someone on the phone to clear this up.
Verizon is listed in EDDB; I think that I've made this offer here before, but anybody who'd like to participate in EDDB, and who otherwise qualifies, can have a healthy "Nanog Discount", or even be listed only (no access) for free.
EDDB is at http://www.isipp.com/eddb.php
In the meantime, Charles, may I forward your note to the Verizon contact?
Anne
Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. President/CEO Institute for Spam & Internet Public Policy Professor of Law, Lincoln Law School of SJ
Charles Sprickman writes on 11/3/2003 8:29 PM:
Anyone else want to dig around for VZ deferrals?
You mean their 4xx'ing all mail that you send them? thenose.net is Dennis' personal domain btw - that's not hosted by Verizon. -- srs (postmaster|suresh)@outblaze.com // gpg : EDEDEFB9 manager, outblaze.com security and antispam operations
No, I'm seeing your e-mail's at verizon.net. In fact, you just replied to one of my inquires. I am researching the issue and will make a reply to you as soon as I understand what is going on. -Dennis
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Sprickman Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:29 PM To: Dennis Dayman Cc: Nanog Subject: RE: Verizon Postmaster contact?
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Dennis Dayman wrote:
I am working on the issue(s) now.
The only problem is, you're not getting my replies because you are also now deferring mail from this ISP as well... It sounds like something is either a bit overzealous, or more likely, broken.
Anyone else want to dig around for VZ deferrals?
Thanks,
Charles
-------------------------- Dennis Dayman Verizon Internet Services Operations Security and Legal Compliance --------------------------
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:24 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Verizon Postmaster contact?
I see VZ was not kind enough to put any contact info in Jared's NOC list. They are currently blocking all mail from an ISP customer of mine (based on the envelope From, not IP), and I need to get someone on the phone to clear this up.
Verizon is listed in EDDB; I think that I've made this offer here before, but anybody who'd like to participate in EDDB, and who otherwise qualifies, can have a healthy "Nanog Discount", or even be listed only (no access) for free.
EDDB is at http://www.isipp.com/eddb.php
In the meantime, Charles, may I forward your note to the Verizon contact?
Anne
Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. President/CEO Institute for Spam & Internet Public Policy Professor of Law, Lincoln Law School of SJ
Getting 550's all day on MAIL FROM: <*@modwest.com> -- noticed it because we're running billing. --On Monday, November 03, 2003 20:29 -0500 Charles Sprickman <spork@inch.com> wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Dennis Dayman wrote:
I am working on the issue(s) now.
The only problem is, you're not getting my replies because you are also now deferring mail from this ISP as well... It sounds like something is either a bit overzealous, or more likely, broken.
Anyone else want to dig around for VZ deferrals?
Thanks,
Charles
-------------------------- Dennis Dayman Verizon Internet Services Operations Security and Legal Compliance --------------------------
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 2:24 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Verizon Postmaster contact?
I see VZ was not kind enough to put any contact info in Jared's NOC list. They are currently blocking all mail from an ISP customer of mine (based on the envelope From, not IP), and I need to get someone on the phone to clear this up.
Verizon is listed in EDDB; I think that I've made this offer here before, but anybody who'd like to participate in EDDB, and who otherwise qualifies, can have a healthy "Nanog Discount", or even be listed only (no access) for free.
EDDB is at http://www.isipp.com/eddb.php
In the meantime, Charles, may I forward your note to the Verizon contact?
Anne
Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. President/CEO Institute for Spam & Internet Public Policy Professor of Law, Lincoln Law School of SJ
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