Mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks
Just wondering, Is anyone aware whether there is already an active mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks to discuss power, cooling, physical infrastructure, etc, etc...? thanks, -Drew
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!! Cooling is not as easy as just pumping cold air into a room.....
From: drew.weaver@thenap.com To: nanog@nanog.org Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 14:28:05 -0400 Subject: Mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks
Just wondering,
Is anyone aware whether there is already an active mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks to discuss power, cooling, physical infrastructure, etc, etc...?
thanks, -Drew
Perhaps there should be a DC track at NANOG? One of the reasons I have not gone in years. I have much knowledge and experience to share, but no one to share it with.
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!!
Cooling is not as easy as just pumping cold air into a room.....
Just wondering,
Is anyone aware whether there is already an active mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks to discuss power, cooling, physical infrastructure, etc, etc...?
I'd like to have discussions on air flow, CRAC units, A/B power circuits....best practices etc etc.....
From: alex@corp.nac.net To: brandon.kim@brandontek.com; drew.weaver@thenap.com; nanog@nanog.org Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 15:20:56 -0400 Subject: RE: Mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks
Perhaps there should be a DC track at NANOG?
One of the reasons I have not gone in years.
I have much knowledge and experience to share, but no one to share it with.
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!!
Cooling is not as easy as just pumping cold air into a room.....
Just wondering,
Is anyone aware whether there is already an active mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks to discuss power, cooling, physical infrastructure, etc, etc...?
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Brandon Kim <brandon.kim@brandontek.com> wrote:
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!!
Cooling is not as easy as just pumping cold air into a room.....
? Indeed... it's even easier than that. Cooling is as easy as making an entire room emit heat to the outside environment at an average rate that is consistently faster than heat transfer into the room from all sources. There are many ways of accomplishing that. One of the best ways is to put your room in an already cold environment, in contact with an excellent thermal conductor. For example... server room in the arctic region, at the bottom of some lake. Probably with all air removed from the environment, and a sound thermal medium such as oil pumped in in its place (make sure to use SSDs for all storage and no mechanical devices). -- -JH
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 08:03:24PM -0500, Jimmy Hess said:
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Brandon Kim <brandon.kim@brandontek.com> wrote:
I would love to be a part of this list if there is one!!!
Cooling is not as easy as just pumping cold air into a room.....
? Indeed... it's even easier than that. Cooling is as easy as making an entire room emit heat to the outside environment at an average rate that is consistently faster than heat transfer into the room from all sources.
There are many ways of accomplishing that. One of the best ways is to
repeal the laws of thermodynamics /kc -- Ken Chase - ken@sizone.org
On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
Probably with all air removed from the environment, and a sound thermal medium such as oil pumped in in its place (make sure to use SSDs for all storage and no mechanical devices).
There are ways to submerge spinning disks. http://www.grcooling.com/ http://www.midasgreentech.com/ :-) --Chris
On 9/8/2011 7:52 AM, Chris Boyd wrote:
On Sep 7, 2011, at 8:03 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
Probably with all air removed from the environment, and a sound thermal medium such as oil pumped in in its place (make sure to use SSDs for all storage and no mechanical devices). There are ways to submerge spinning disks.
http://www.grcooling.com/ http://www.midasgreentech.com/
:-)
--Chris
IBM was making water cooled disk drives for special customers in the early 70s
On Sep 7, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Drew Weaver wrote:
Just wondering,
Is anyone aware whether there is already an active mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks to discuss power, cooling, physical infrastructure, etc, etc...?
There was one at shorty.com, but that's now a paintball / Airsoft site. $DAYJOB is willing to host a new maillist though. Give me a while and we'll get one set up. --Chris
dc-ops@puck.nether.net thanks Jared =) http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/dc-ops -Drew -----Original Message----- From: Drew Weaver [mailto:drew.weaver@thenap.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 2:28 PM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' Subject: Mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks Just wondering, Is anyone aware whether there is already an active mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks to discuss power, cooling, physical infrastructure, etc, etc...? thanks, -Drew
Have found http://www.linkedin.com/groups?about=&gid=94108 to have some gems in it. I mention only because it's otherwise a case of YAML (that is, Yet Another Mailing List, not the logging format...) Of course, not everyone uses or likes LinkedIn. Mark. On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 16:09 -0400, Drew Weaver wrote:
dc-ops@puck.nether.net thanks Jared =)
http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/dc-ops
-Drew
-----Original Message----- From: Drew Weaver [mailto:drew.weaver@thenap.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 2:28 PM To: 'nanog@nanog.org' Subject: Mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks
Just wondering,
Is anyone aware whether there is already an active mailing list/group for datacenter facilities folks to discuss power, cooling, physical infrastructure, etc, etc...?
thanks, -Drew
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