New subject: COLO space in EU

11 Dec 2024

      Yea, 0.15-30EUR is definitely higher than the US average, much higher than what we pay.

Out here, colo spaces tend to charge ~1.5-2x the utility rate in the quote. Mainly to factor in cooling, depending on their PUE. 

Based on cost of power in the EU, the monthly seems fine, but the install cost seems high. It seems like that facility doesn't have the power available, or doesn't have 3 phase and wants you to foot the cost. 

I would shop, there's probably a space that has the power and delivery ready and available.

- Riley

On Wednesday, December 11th, 2024 at 3:04 PM, Jeremy <liste@freeheberg.com> wrote:
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The average energy price in Europe is actually 0.15-0.30€ / Kwh.

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Please don't forget that this price is very high because USA has
destroyed our gaz pipelane NORD-Stream-2 to Russia in 2022.
Before that, the price of energy was aroung 0.06-0.09€/Kwh.

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Thanks USA.
Have a good day,
Jérémy

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Le 11/12/2024 à 22:51, Aaron Wendel a écrit :

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I don't understand how people stay in business paying $0.15/kWh.
That's crazy.
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From "Riley O" m32+nanog@cubit.sh
To "Aaron Wendel" aaron@wholesaleinternet.net
Cc "Tony Wicks" tony@wicks.co.nz; "NANOG list" nanog@nanog.org
Date 12/11/2024 3:22:27 PM
Subject Re: Re[2]: COLO space in EU
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Where are you seeing that kind of pricing? The utility cost would
have to be sub $0.15/kWh to even pay the bill with 20kW, ignoring any
cooling.
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Thanks,
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On Wednesday, December 11th, 2024 at 12:40 PM, Aaron Wendel
aaron@wholesaleinternet.net wrote:
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Considering a full cabinet with 20kW in the US costs under $2k total
I would say so.
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Aaron
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From "Tony Wicks" tony@wicks.co.nz
To "'Aaron Wendel'" aaron@wholesaleinternet.net
Cc "'harbor235'" harbor235@gmail.com; "'NANOG list'" nanog@nanog.org
Date 12/11/2024 1:08:37 PM
Subject RE: COLO space in EU
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Yea, looks like whoever did that quote does not really want the
business and is pricing it as such
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*From:*NANOG nanog-bounces+tony=wicks.co.nz@nanog.org *On Behalf
Of *Aaron Wendel
Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2024 8:05 am
To: harbor235 harbor235@gmail.com; NANOG list nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: COLO space in EU
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So they have a charge just to have the capacity present of 7000
euros/month and then .278 euros per KWh on top of that?
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I wish I could get away with charging that.
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Aaron
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From "harbor235" harbor235@gmail.com
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Date 12/11/2024 12:45:52 PM
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Subject COLO space in EU
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Hi all,
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Looking for colo space in Amsterdam, is it common to have to
pay for phase3 power busbar and busbar, power supply, and tap
off? Total costs for adding 3 phase plus testing etc .....
136.000 Euros for NRCs and the following MRC:
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The Service Fee for a 20kW deployment would be €350/kW/month,
so €7,000 per month in total based on a 36 month term and 3%
annual indexation
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·Electricity consumption will be measured and invoiced monthly
in arrears at €0.278 per kWh (2024 pricing)
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Mike

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Re: COLO space in EU

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