In article <10184.195637.1890@avi.netaxs.com> you wrote: : On Tue, 4 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote: : Avi, : In my last message I said good things about you. Please don't make me take : them back. : You can't purchase an opt-in list. Period. Let's just take it off-list. Let's just say that I reject religious oversimplifications, whether it's about spam 'there are no acceptable opt-in lists' (I've subscribed to a few, though generally with separate mailing address) - or routing 'multihoming is bad and hurts you' (rarely aregues except by those with a financial incentive to do so). Don't get me started on OSs, though... There may be FAR more than a kernel of truth, but blanket statements go against my grain... In any case, re: Akamai, we managed to convince marketing that the benefit of even what I'd call 'legit' list-based marketing aren't worth it, so the rest is just semantics and probably, as you said, not really on-topic for NANOG. Thanks, Avi