RE: Ethical DDoS drone network

Until you get hit at 8GB/s and then don't have a nice 'off' button.. -r -----Original Message----- From: Michael Gazzerro [mailto:mike.gazzerro@nobistech.net] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:14 PM To: 'Jeffrey Lyon'; nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Ethical DDoS drone network You could just troll people on IRC until you get DDOS'd. All the fun, none of the work! -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:54 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Ethical DDoS drone network FWIW, I'm primarily concerned about testing PPS loads and not brute force bandwidth. Best regards, Jeff On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Edward B. DREGER <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net> wrote:
RD> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:54:50 +0800 RD> From: Roland Dobbins
RD> AUPs are a big issue, here..
And AUPs [theoretically] set forth definitions.
Of course, there exist colo providers with "unlimited 10 Gbps bandwidth" whose AUPs read "do not use 'too much' bandwith or we will get angry", thus introducing ambiguity regarding just _for what_ one is paying...
Perhaps "abuse" is best _operationally_ defined as "something that angers someone enough that it's at least sort of likely to cost you some money -- and maybe even a lot"?
Were the definition clear, I doubt there'd be such a long NANOG thread. (Yes, I'm feeling optimistic today.)
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But I don't think his boss would be too happy when their network is up and down for days because he irk'ed a scriptkiddie on irc just to test their limits :) -r -----Original Message----- From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:sethm@rollernet.us] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:36 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Ethical DDoS drone network Ray Corbin wrote:
Until you get hit at 8GB/s and then don't have a nice 'off' button..
However, it would very accurately simulate a real-world attack where you don't get to have an "off" button. ~Seth
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