Re: DKIM and list policies (was Re: Scheduled Maintenance Finished)
On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 3:39 AM Niels Bakker via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog@bakker.net> To: nanog@lists.nanog.org Cc: Bcc: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 10:38:20 +0100 Subject: [NANOG] Re: DKIM and list policies (was Re: Scheduled Maintenance Finished) * Bryan@bryanfields.net (Bryan Fields) [Mon 03 Mar 2025, 00:47 CET]:
The footer is a bit redundant, as mailman3 has the direct link in the "Archived-At:" header now. I'd propose removing the footer and subject prefix, and investigate implementing ARC now that we can support it on mailman3. Keep in mind there's over 12k people on this list, so performance is a bit of concern.
What do others think of this?
Agreed on both counts. Look at this monstrosity:
Subject: [NANOG] Re: [NANOG]Re: Hardware for MPLS/SR network
-- Niels.
Text processing is hard. Perhaps what we need is more powerful computers or a new programming language dedicated to the task? Maybe run it through some AI on the way out? Surprised I'm the first (I know of) to complain that List-id: changed. (insert whining about how I had to adjust email filter here) -Sam
On 3/3/2025 2:28 PM, Sam Thomas via NANOG wrote:
Surprised I'm the first (I know of) to complain that List-id: changed. (insert whining about how I had to adjust email filter here)
<whining> I just had to update my procmail config to match the new list-id. </whining> I've been complaining (in my head) since it changed when each message came in from the list, if that counts.
I know! I had to update my rules too! Was wondering why all the list traffic was finding its way into my inbox. — Sent from my iPad
On Mar 3, 2025, at 15:50, Vinny Abello via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
On 3/3/2025 2:28 PM, Sam Thomas via NANOG wrote:
Surprised I'm the first (I know of) to complain that List-id: changed. (insert whining about how I had to adjust email filter here)
<whining> I just had to update my procmail config to match the new list-id. </whining>
I've been complaining (in my head) since it changed when each message came in from the list, if that counts.
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Lol... all I can say is "Welcome back NANOG!" :)I see nothing has changed.99.9% edited their rule. 0.1% complained about the interruption to normal programming.... and my inbox is full of noise. As for DKIM etc. It's a bit like the endless whois debate in my region that results in the tool becoming less useful.*sigh*D - 55 this year... /etc/init.d/grumpy restart-- Don Gould5 Cargill PlaceRichmond 8013Christchurch, New ZealandMobile/Telegram: + 64 21 114 0699www.bowenvale.co.nz -------- Original message --------From: Joel Esler via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Date: 4/03/25 12:13 pm (GMT+12:00) To: nanog@lists.nanog.org Cc: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog@bakker.net>, nanog@lists.nanog.org, Joel Esler <joel@joelesler.net> Subject: [NANOG] Re: DKIM and list policies (was Re: Scheduled Maintenance Finished) I know! I had to update my rules too! Was wondering why all the list traffic was finding its way into my inbox.—Sent from my iPad> On Mar 3, 2025, at 15:50, Vinny Abello via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:> > On 3/3/2025 2:28 PM, Sam Thomas via NANOG wrote:>> Surprised I'm the first (I know of) to complain that List-id: changed. (insert>> whining about how I had to adjust email filter here)> > <whining> I just had to update my procmail config to match the new list-id. </whining>> > I've been complaining (in my head) since it changed when each message came in from the list, if that counts.> > _______________________________________________> NANOG mailing list> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/LRXQ2Z3K3QIZKBBDQQT52TYI2ZN3ACXQ/> <OpenPGP_signature.asc>_______________________________________________NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/O3FE77O5...
Favorite comment of the week! -Eric ________________________________ From: Don Gould via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 6:38 PM To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog@bakker.net>; Don Gould <don@bowenvale.co.nz> Subject: [NANOG] Re: DKIM and list policies (was Re: Scheduled Maintenance Finished) Lol... all I can say is "Welcome back NANOG!" :)I see nothing has changed.99.9% edited their rule. 0.1% complained about the interruption to normal programming.... and my inbox is full of noise. As for DKIM etc. It's a bit like the endless whois debate in my region that results in the tool becoming less useful.*sigh*D - 55 this year... /etc/init.d/grumpy restart-- Don Gould5 Cargill PlaceRichmond 8013Christchurch, New ZealandMobile/Telegram: + 64 21 114 0699www.bowenvale.co.nz -------- Original message --------From: Joel Esler via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Date: 4/03/25 12:13 pm (GMT+12:00) To: nanog@lists.nanog.org Cc: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog@bakker.net>, nanog@lists.nanog.org, Joel Esler <joel@joelesler.net> Subject: [NANOG] Re: DKIM and list policies (was Re: Scheduled Maintenance Finished) I know! I had to update my rules too! Was wondering why all the list traffic was finding its way into my inbox.—Sent from my iPad> On Mar 3, 2025, at 15:50, Vinny Abello via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:> > On 3/3/2025 2:28 PM, Sam Thomas via NANOG wrote:>> Surprised I'm the first (I know of) to complain that List-id: changed. (insert>> whining about how I had to adjust email filter here)> > <whining> I just had to update my procmail config to match the new list-id. </whining>> > I've been complaining (in my head) since it changed when each message came in from the list, if that counts.> > _______________________________________________> NANOG mailing list> https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/LRXQ2Z3K3QIZKBBDQQT52TYI2ZN3ACXQ/> <OpenPGP_signature.asc>_______________________________________________NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/O3FE77O5... _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/UO2TFGXM...
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