I dont normally defend ATT, but…

"The plans are specifically priced at $15 per month for 25 Megabits per second (Mbps) download speeds and $20 per month for 200 Mbps. These prices must include recurring taxes, equipment rental fees, and other usage fees, with annual price increases capped at 2%."

$15/month for 25Mbps, and that price includes all equipment fees and taxes? Thats a little ridiculous given inflation and general cost of living. If it were $25/month - then maybe ATT should make it work, but $15 is too low.

So that's close, but not 100%. 

- Any plan 25Mb - 199Mb must be $15 a month , inclusive of all fees, including equipment.  
- Any plan 200Mb+ must be $20 a month , but the provider MAY charge equipment rental + taxes and fees on top .

My understanding (from some ISP friends that lobbied on this) is that the 200Mb/$20 plan was a carrot to get ISPs to raise that minimum bandwidth floor , since most would very much want to keep charging equipment fees. I am in full agreement that $15 all in is a silly low number, doubly low if you can't recoup equipment. 

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 3:02 PM John Von Essen <john@essenz.com> wrote:
I dont normally defend ATT, but…

"The plans are specifically priced at $15 per month for 25 Megabits per second (Mbps) download speeds and $20 per month for 200 Mbps. These prices must include recurring taxes, equipment rental fees, and other usage fees, with annual price increases capped at 2%."

$15/month for 25Mbps, and that price includes all equipment fees and taxes? Thats a little ridiculous given inflation and general cost of living. If it were $25/month - then maybe ATT should make it work, but $15 is too low.

-John


On Jan 16, 2025, at 9:27 AM, sronan@ronan-online.com wrote:

I’m assuming he’s referring to the New York State low income Internet mandate that recently went into effect.





On Jan 16, 2025, at 9:25 AM, Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> wrote:

Mike-

What specific government regulation or action are you asserting here that caused this action? 

On Thu, Jan 16, 2025 at 9:13 AM Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
Government gets over involved in things they don't understand, and businesses pull out.



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From: "Robert DeVita" <radevita@mejeticks.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2025 8:05:57 AM
Subject: AT&t ABF NYC

FYI. AT&T is discontinuing their ABF service in New York. 

What's Happening with Existing ABF Customers in NY
  AT&T Business Fiber customers in New York will be able to keep their current ABF service until March 1 at no charge, as they find other options for broadband service.
 Customers must do one of the following before 3/1/25, when their ABF services will be disconnected:
• Sign a 12-month contract for existing ABF services at current rates
• Switch to AT&T Dedicated Internet (ADI) or AWB with standard pricing
• Take no action, and their ABF services will be disconnected on 3/1/25
Existing customers are being contacted via email and direct mail to inform them of the changes and offer the option to either sign a 12-month contract or migrate to AWB or ADI.
 AT&T’s nationwide wireless service will not change in New York. AIA-B and ABF are still offered in all other qualified locations and states. We value our customers and AT&T will continue to support policies that promote capital investment, innovation and a competitive market.


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