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On Jul 21, 2025 at 5:17 PM, jonathan via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
Hey are you related to Jonah?
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On Jul 21, 2025 at 2:41 PM, Ron Yokubaitis via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
"Hard cases make good Law."
RonY Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 21, 2025, at 4:03 PM, Mel Beckman via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
David,
Thank you for supplying the factual data I was looking for. I’m happy to now accept “most”.
Let us hope the slippery slope of anonymizing registration data doesn’t creep into ARIN!
-mel
On Jul 21, 2025, at 1:24 PM, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> wrote:
On Jul 19, 2025, at 5:41 PM, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote: It’s not that I’m “going somewhere” with this comment. I’m just looking for factual data, not wild guesses. I’ll accept “some” for now.
They weren’t "wild guesses”. As mentioned, my comments regarding registrars redacting for privacy was in relation to my discussions with law enforcement. This would appear to be corroborated by John McCormac’s post that pointed to https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.dnib.com_articles_interisle-2Dreport-2Dexamines-2Ddomain-2Dname-2Dcontact-2Ddata-2Davailability&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=j0RyxXxwnpCmSqoSZYvbAwrZgb09c8cpYDfGWknN0HfiGA4donrvcrH83MttE3st&s=HNhAt6Xw9R20rk1Pj0Tj-ITXDLXG90K7EXYZiuBTWTY&e= which seems to confirm “most” (if not “if not all”). The TL;DR quote from that paper:
"Since 2018, registrars also have expanded and promoted free privacy proxy service offerings. Of the 20 largest registrars included in the study, which collectively account for more than 70% of gTLD registrations, a majority offer free proxy services, removing financial barriers to proxy use for the majority of gTLD registrants.”
Since my day job causes me to be somewhat involved in never ending registration data debacle, I did a quick check of the top registrars by market share John listed. It appears:
Godaddy (27.6% market share): privacy on by default for all eligible new domains Namecheap (8.04%): privacy on by default for all eligible new domains Tucows (includes Enom and Hover, 4.3%): on by default for all eligible new domains Squarespace (formerly Google, 3.3%): on by default for all eligible new domains GMO Internet (includes https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__onamae.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=j0RyxXxwnpCmSqoSZYvbAwrZgb09c8cpYDfGWknN0HfiGA4donrvcrH83MttE3st&s=uoaC7ef9fHZuYnOyn_w5D7ieZzQ-MCyy9ga_QBVpsHc&e= and https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__z.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=j0RyxXxwnpCmSqoSZYvbAwrZgb09c8cpYDfGWknN0HfiGA4donrvcrH83MttE3st&s=MRl6alNNS_i0U5Bq8CXDNH4qCDW0qv4u9c5QR78WyuY&e=, 2.37%): on by default for all eligible new domains Dynadot (2.21%): on by default for all eligible new domains Netsol: (2.16%): NOT on by default, a $9.99 added service Gname: (2.12%): NOT on by default, free for all eligible new domains
(I was only able to find one other registrar that doesn’t have privacy on by default, Bluehost, but I didn’t bother figuring out their market share or doing a further, exhaustive survey)
Translating that to operational impact, according to the first line of the https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dnib.com&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=j0RyxXxwnpCmSqoSZYvbAwrZgb09c8cpYDfGWknN0HfiGA4donrvcrH83MttE3st&s=5ZsrGJY45ZbllizLyKjX1emApZIBr1LeQ-TuDxc_TNY&e= paper, about "Nearly 90% of the internet’s generic top-level domain (gTLD) names do not have identifying contact information in the Registration Data Directory Services (RDDS) system […]”.
Is every good scientist knows, the absence of data is not data, and the plural of anecdote is not data :-)
Ironically, the original aphorism was “the plural of anecdote is data” (see https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__web.archive.org_web_20080523225000_http-3A__listserv.linguistlist.org_cgi-2Dbin_wa-3FA2-3Dind0407a-26L-3Dads-2Dl-26P-3D8874&d=DwIGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=j0RyxXxwnpCmSqoSZYvbAwrZgb09c8cpYDfGWknN0HfiGA4donrvcrH83MttE3st&s=QkUD_G-cq1lqEdKXDmHSbmGs-glweWBR0jxpODvg1Eg&e=).
Regards, -drc
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