That one, for sure. Remove or disable things that are not being used. It can't fail or be compromised if it's not there. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Moore via NANOG" <nanog@lists.nanog.org> To: "North American Network Operators Group" <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: "Jeff Moore" <mail@jeffmoore.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2025 6:11:32 PM Subject: [NANOG] Re: The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed? Always been CLI first. Probably too oldschool but have always felt that one of the best security commands on network gear is "no ip http server". Old unix instructor I had always beat it into our head if you don't use it every day remove it. Every added service/component is one more avenue into your system and another potential failure point. On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 4:07 PM Suresh Ramasubramanian via NANOG < nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
Speaking of gmail keyboard shortcuts, did you by any chance see this yet. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6594
From: Shawn L via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Date: Wednesday, 19 March 2025 at 4:21 AM To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: Shawn L <shawnl@up.net> Subject: [NANOG] Re: The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed?
"Grew up" on elm and vi (someone please make a gmail addon that supports VI keys) -- CLI all the way.
I will admit (grudgingly) that there are some things that a GUI is more suited for. It can be a lot easier to visualize traffic flows with graphs, etc. rather than packet counters.
There is also a lot of new gear where just putting a port on a vlan and accepting un-tagged traffic becomes a 10 line config in cli. Who thought this was a good idea? Yes, I can do it with 10 clicks in the GUI, but I don't want to, I want to blow a standardized config on it, then just make a couple of tweaks.
-----Original Message----- From: "borg--- via NANOG" <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2025 6:11pm To: nanog@lists.nanog.org Cc: borg@uu3.net Subject: [NANOG] Re: The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed?
CLI forever ;) But more seriously. CLI is great, its quick, can run on toaster and its easya automated using scripting (generate, replace, preprocess).
I like CLI to the point that my docs stuff runs under CLI terminal. The GUI is only used for visualizers. I hope that CLI will stay for a long time...
---------- Original message ----------
From: Mark Prosser via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> To: nanog@lists.nanog.org Cc: Mark Prosser <mark@zealnetworks.ca> Subject: [NANOG] The Network CLI -- Love it ? Hate it? Needed? Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 15:05:33 -0400
Hi NANOG community,
I posed this question in several chat groups, but I'd like to get your opinions.
Do you love the CLI? Do you hate the CLI? Would you -- or do you already -- enjoy a world where you never need to touch the CLI, to manage your network?
This applies to both provisioning and troubleshooting; to which, you may have different answers.
So far, I've seen a variety of replies around the usual "should/must/must not/should not".
Warm regards,
-- Mark Prosser // E: mark@zealnetworks.ca // W: https://zealnetworks.ca
_______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list
https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/GNZX57LV... _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list
https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/M7MASHV2... _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list
https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/DXLGLBTJ... _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list
https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/T6TVCGBI...
NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/B26CL3SV...