Jack, Let me draw an inference from your reply. For example, in parts of our community, there are ordinances against putting up A-Frame signs. (the tin signs placed in or near intersections, generally used to advertise real estate) Each weekend the local P.D. confiscates these signs and stores them in a holding pen. Therefore, am I just as 'guilty' if I host A.B.C. Homes website, if they choose to advertise new homes in this clearly illegal manner? The A-Frame signs are a nuisance and use up professional time to remove, just like spam. There has to be a line drawn somewhere, wouldn't you think? Regards, Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Broadband Laboratories, Inc. http://www.bblabs.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Jack Bates Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 5:18 AM To: Christopher J. Wolff Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Open relays and open proxies Christopher J. Wolff wrote:
The spamcop complaints that really set me off are the "spamvertised website" complaints. Just the mere fact that you host a site that was advertised by spam enjoins you in the spamcop chain of causation, even if the spam mail did not originate from your network.
With the exception of Joe-Jobs, spamvertised websites should be terminated. The theory is that the spammer should not be making money from the spam. Take away their money and perhaps they'll learn not to send spam. Of course, perhaps you enjoy the extra money you make because the customer sent spam to someone and the website generated traffic that directly or indirectly made you money. Also, SpamCop works with people concerning the reports. If I'm not mistaken, they'll turn off specific types of reports if you ask. Personally, I like to be aware of what my customers are doing when it can cause me problems in the long run. -Jack