Thanks to everybody who is sending me either broken or complete traceroutes to Sprint. Sprint seems to be slowly fixing itself. As I understand it, they installed three routers that weren't configured properly -- exactly how, I don't know. The interesting problem is AT&T: [ root@pdx-s01 -> traceroute mailhost.worldnet.att.net traceroute to mailhost.worldnet.att.net (204.127.8.4), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ns.bytes.net (205.147.64.1) 26.276 ms 19.033 ms 19.475 ms 2 cisco1.bytes.net (205.147.64.2) 19.075 ms 19.218 ms 19.757 ms 3 border1-serial3-1.Seattle.cw.net (204.70.52.49) 213.315 ms 29.124 ms 149.192 ms 4 border1-serial3-1.Seattle.cw.net (204.70.52.49) 119.228 ms !H * 99.522 ms !H [ Mon Nov 30 13:21:20 ] [ root@pdx-s02 -> traceroute mailhost.worldnet.att.net traceroute to mailhost.worldnet.att.net (204.127.8.3), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 pdx-pm01 (209.188.52.11) 1.023 ms 0.807 ms 0.777 ms 2 209.104.198.73 (209.104.198.73) 4.144 ms 4.817 ms 4.045 ms 3 209.104.198.73 (209.104.198.73) 4.456 ms !H 5.615 ms !H * Gone on two distinctly different routes. Jim __________________________________________________________________ Jim Dawson jdawson@navi.net GCN Communications, Inc. http://www.navi.net 618 NW Glisan St. Ste. 407 voice: +1.503.641.1449 Portland, Or 97209 USA fax: +1.503.641.3634 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~