Yeah, that is kind of why I said "Whatever Noction is doing" in the original post. I'm not really calling to resurrect Noction. I'm saying that BGP path selection could be better and it's kind of silly that it's 2024 and things are still being handled by a static tie breaker. Thanks, -Drew -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+drew.weaver=thenap.com@nanog.org> On Behalf Of Niels Bakker Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2024 3:40 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Route optimization using GPUs? * nanog@ics-il.net (Mike Hammett) [Thu 05 Dec 2024, 21:32 CET]:
Not by the box, but by the operator of the box.
We've been over this numerous times around the time when that Honest Networker page in my email was created. Noction ship their boxes with insanely dangerous defaults that are bound to lead to catastrophic route leaks. "Unsafe at any speed" applies to the whole category but especially to that implementation. I don't know if they've improved or lost business since. Their major accomplishment as a company may turn out to be, unintended though it may be, hastening the global acceptance and rollout of RPKI OV. -- Niels.