On Mon, Dec 1, 2025 at 7:35 AM Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
Because your client doesn't want their device behind a router at the client site, or doesn't understand that they will use a router on the other side of that line, is a fine example of "not my problem".
No, that's not your problem in the scenario where you're their ISP, but I can tell you this client will happily switch from your service to someone else's (again, if you're not a monopoly) when the phone provider says "XYZ ISP won't give you what you need, you need to switch to ABC ISP".
Because you have 12 year old hardware and can't be down for a few hours, an ISP should support a /29? I fail to see the logic.
No, the ISP should support a /29 because customers want a /29 instead of trying to insert themselves into the role of "We're going to deny your request because we've arbitrarily decided that what you need isn't a good enough reason"...and because pretty much every competitor does support it.
I have had 1 customer in 20 years ask about IPV6. She had no idea what it was and only asked because her router (Netgear or something) setup asked for it. You're also suggesting that IPv6 would improve services. As someone that's tried IPv6 in the office, I found it only caused downtime and frustration and offered 0 benefit. Why would I torture my customers with this v6 mess as it only frustrates the end user - they just want their Netflix to work!
Sure--that's pretty typical for residential customers. It's a bit atypical for business customers. Over a decade ago, I worked for a company that provided various IT services for small businesses. Nearly every single small business had a /29. Most of them ran an Exchange server, a phone server, Microsoft's RD Web, and/or whatever Microsoft's remote access server VPN product was called on the IPs. It beats having to install and configure something like HAProxy on the router to redirect HTTP/HTTPS traffic to various servers sitting on private blocks.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single national provider that doesn't have dual-stack IPv4 and IPv6. Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, etc...they've all had it for years.
Metronet/Tmobile. Charter/Spectrum. Centurylink. If Comcast and Charter combine, you will lose that example. AT&T doesn't have it everywhere, see their 2023 article: https://www.att.com/support/article/u-verse-high-speed-internet/KM1148998/ Verizon looks to be at 6% back in 2022: https://community.verizon.com/t5/Fios-Home-Internet-Archive/IPv6-expanding-F...
I could have sworn AT&T had it--but they aren't in my area. I guess all these national providers that do offer IPv6 are just taking on the added management costs for the fun of it. -A