6 Jul
                
                    2002
                
            
            
                6 Jul
                
                '02
                
            
            
            
        
    
                11:24 p.m.
            
        Hello, Frank. ] Your upstreams, who will help you back-track. Nobody DoS'es with their ] real IP's anymore. Hmm, not according to the data I collect. I track numerous botnets and DoSnets, and a bit over 80% of them use the real IPs as the source of the floods. Then again, with 500 - 18000 bots, it isn't all that necessary to mask the source IPs. :/ Just my $.02, of course. Thanks, Rob. -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty);