Jared, Great comment. 100% agree with you. We speak of this often in our community RE DNS. Steve Sullivan Membership Coordinator OARC Mattermost Chat: @stevos https://linktr.ee/dnsoarc On 8/21/2025 7:04 AM, Jared Mauch via NANOG wrote:
On Aug 21, 2025, at 9:50 AM, Mike Simpson via NANOG<nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
The idea that we would expect Network Operators to be able to deal with the intricacies of running an irc client with commands and everything. /sarcasm
Most windows folk seemed to be able cope with mIRC or whatever the kids are using these days. Even the ones that weren’t into internetworking. I will say this:
We used to live in a world where most people on the list ran their own DNS, NNTP, IRC, E-mail etc servers and services and understood how each end-to-end bit worked together. We seem to be much further from that these days, people either know the hosts or the network but not both, the applications but not the operating system.
It’s important to understand more of what is going on in the adjacent systems and network elements as that impacts the outcomes that we design and engineer for these days.
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