It appears that Mike Hammett via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> said:
Important in what you said is the ability to seek redress. The Internet often doesn't provide good means of seeking redress.
You can always get a refund of what you paid for the mail they don't deliver. R's, John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <ops.lists@gmail.com> To: "North American Network Operators Group" <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2025 9:36:33 AM Subject: Re: Worsening google service reputation and abuse
Truth. Reduced to its simplest terms, if the way you run (or don’t bother to run) your network causes issues to other networks, those networks may take whatever action necessary to protect their network, systems and users.
The problem of random, indiscriminate blocking and no possible redress was why these community / industry organizations and best practices came about. So there are at least processes that you can follow to get yourself unblocked, worst comes to worst.
The other best practices about keeping bad actors off your network? Well, they seem much more difficult in practice than on paper. Even the most proactive organization can’t avoid it 100%, despite their spending time and effort on it. Orgs that don’t care or don’t want to know about the problem? No need to say anything further about those.