Public side of the NAT would need a huge IPv4 Public pool.
Replacing Private pool to something bigger is a very corner case.
Mobile Carriers identify subscribers not by the IP, they could easy tolerate many overlapping 10/8 even on one Mobile Core.
Huge private pool 240/4 is needed only for Cloud providers that have many micro-services.
Nothing to dispute here. The people that need it already well aware about it.
Eduard
From: Abraham Y. Chen [mailto:aychen@avinta.com]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2024 5:39 AM
To: Vasilenko Eduard <vasilenko.eduard@huawei.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; KARIM MEKKAOUI <amekkaoui@mektel.ca>; Chen, Abraham Y. <AYChen@alum.MIT.edu>
Subject: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block
Importance: High
Hi, Vasilenko:
1) ...
These “multi-national conglo” has enough influence on the IETF to not permit it.":
As classified by Vint Cerf, 240/4 enabled EzIP is an overlay network that may be deployed stealthily (just like the events reported by the RIPE-LAB). So, EzIP deployment does
not need permission from the IETF.
Regards,
Abe (2024-01-11 21:38 EST)
On 2024-01-11 01:17, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:
> It has been known that multi-national conglomerates have been using it without announcement.
This is an assurance that 240/4 would never be permitted for Public Internet. These “multi-national conglo” has enough influence on the IETF to not permit it.
Ed/
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei.com@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Abraham Y. Chen
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 3:35 PM
To: KARIM MEKKAOUI <amekkaoui@mektel.ca>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Chen, Abraham Y. <AYChen@alum.MIT.edu>
Subject: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block
Importance: High
Hi, Karim:
1) If you have control of your own equipment (I presume that your business includes IAP - Internet Access Provider, since you are asking to buy IPv4 blocks.), you can get a large block of reserved IPv4 address for free by disabling the program codes in your current facility that has been disabling the use of 240/4 netblock. Please have a look at the below whitepaper. Utilized according to the outlined disciplines, this is a practically unlimited resources. It has been known that multi-national conglomerates have been using it without announcement. So, you can do so stealthily according to the proposed mechanism which establishes uniform practices, just as well.
2) Being an unorthodox solution, if not controversial, please follow up with me offline. Unless, other NANOGers express their interests.
Regards,
Abe (2024-01-10 07:34 EST)
On 2024-01-07 22:46, KARIM MEKKAOUI wrote:
Hi Nanog Community
Any idea please on the best way to buy IPv4 blocs and what is the price?
Thank you
KARIM
