On 21/08/25 16:04, Jared Mauch via NANOG wrote:
I will say this:
We used to live in a world where most people on the list ran their own DNS, NNTP, IRC, E-mail etc servers and services and understood how each end-to-end bit worked together. We seem to be much further from that these days, people either know the hosts or the network but not both, the applications but not the operating system.
This may be due to the broadening of the scope of the list. I assume at one time the North American Network Operators Group exclusively consisted of people who Operated North American Networks. And I assume most of those people are still here. But people (or at least I) now receive information from farther and farther afield; I expect the number of tangentially interested people, university students, etc. on this list has increased much faster than the number of actual network operators. It seems like *you* really Operate a real North American Network, but you're replying to someone with a Russian name and a mail server hosted on AWS, who probably doesn't. I know that I have certainly never set foot in North America, nor do I Operate a real Network (DN42 isn't real - it's a grown-up lab exercise).
It’s important to understand more of what is going on in the adjacent systems and network elements as that impacts the outcomes that we design and engineer for these days.
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