No, it didnt as well. But I guess I live in the past with my attitude for this things... The battle is over because quantity wins over quality, no pride in engineering. Its all about money and paychecks... not about good usefull product/service. Im too old for that I guess.. ---------- Original message ---------- From: Tom Beecher <beecher@beecher.cc> To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@lists.nanog.org> Cc: borg@uu3.net Subject: Re: How Consolidation is Eroding Internet Resilience Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2025 14:25:25 -0500 Doesn't have anything to do with big/small org size. Two+ decades of "why run this myself, I'll just use theirs" , combined with people assuming that the big dogs 'never go down' has gotten us here. Maybe this CF outage didn't touch anything you care about, but I bet the more recent AWS one did. On Sun, Nov 23, 2025 at 11:56˙˙AM borg--- via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
Indeed, spoken like a true bigboy... Small orgs should keep quiet.. I didnt noticed any problems w/ supplies here.. Anyway.. Keep centralizing boys... It will be good.. For your landlords..
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From: J. Hellenthal <jhellenthal@dataix.net> To: nanog@lists.nanog.org Cc: borg@uu3.net, nanog@lists.nanog.org Subject: Re: How Consolidation is Eroding Internet Resilience Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2025 08:50:27 -0600
Sadly your view of the "internet" is as small as a pea. IRC doesn't get people paid and things like salesforce being down produce logistical problems causing trucks not to move, delivering your goods to stores leaving you sitting there on IRC spreading peanut butter on whatever bread you have left with a plastic knife until it all clears up.
-- J. Hellenthal
The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
On Nov 23, 2025, at 06:53, borg--- via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote:
˙˙Well, dont get me wrong, but this article is a bit wrong. Internet != CDNs. While this is true that CDNs host a lot of content these days and outage bring down a lot of sites down, this doesnt mean the whole Internet is like that.
I, for example didnt notice a thing when CloudFlare went down. If not sitting on some IRC channels where I heard moaning about it I would NOT know a thing that there is outage in progress ;) My stuff was working, stuff I cared was working..
Regards, Borg
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From: Hank Nussbacher via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> To: nanog@lists.nanog.org Cc: Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il> Subject: How Consolidation is Eroding Internet Resilience Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2025 10:28:35 +0200
https://pulse.internetsociety.org/blog/how-consolidation-is-eroding-internet...
Some may find this of interest.
Regards, Hank
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