Ask F5 what do they think Best regards, Dmitry Sherman [X] On 19 Mar 2025, at 0:09, Elmar K. Bins via NANOG <nanog@lists.nanog.org> wrote: Hi Mark, folks, IMHO there's no reason to use a GUI on a routing or switching platform; it just makes things - more complicated to achieve (properly) - more difficult to replicate - impossible to automate apart from - creating CPU load and memory overhead - blowing up the code tenfold - inviting protocol attacks and incurring CVEs galore - everybody cooking their own and nothing being familiar on mixed platforms Ggraphing etc? Fine, but why would that have to be built into the box? Debugging? Yeah, try tweaking a hundred times through a GUI. Orchestration? If you need some kind of process-oriented software for this, automation is available with a standard protocol (netconf), and it's being used with different levels of success (smart implementations allow CLI add-ins.) Nobody in their right mind clicks a config. I can, btw, see a case for a fancier frontend on firewalls, where the changes will trigger automation in the backend. But still the first thing to disable on any network gear - for me - is disabling that ***censored*** that is being forced on us. Just my 2 Eurocents, from an old fart, Elmar. Do you love the CLI? Do you hate the CLI? Would you -- or do you already -- enjoy a world where you never need to touch the CLI, to manage your network? _______________________________________________ NANOG mailing list https://lists.nanog.org/archives/list/nanog@lists.nanog.org/message/VTCOPW3I...