SL> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:47:12 +1200 (NZST) SL> From: Simon Lyall SL> The question is what tool are people going to use to talk to people, SL> government bodies and companies that they are not "friends" with? SL> Even if the person you want to contact is on IM it is likely they SL> will block messages from random people due to the existing Spam SL> problem there. Hence the need for semi-transitive trust. What tool do people use to exchange packets with networks with which they are not peers? We've already solved some of the same underlying principles. Red car, blue car; both are built the same. Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman & Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita ________________________________________________________________________ DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: davidc@brics.com -*- jfconmaapaq@intc.net -*- sam@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter.