-----Original Message----- From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen J. Wilcox Sent: April 14, 2004 9:59 AM To: daryl@introspect.net Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Lazy network operators
On Wed, 14 Apr 2004, daryl@introspect.net wrote:
Not being happy with the ISP's smarthost is not justification to run your own; you should change ISPs.. assuming we implement this locked
That's a super idea. Now explain how that works when you have access to only a single broadband provider. If you already thought of this scenario, you're seriously underestimating the number of people in this situation.
In my example I suggested that there would be tiers of service, for an extra fee they would give you a service where you could run your smarthost.
I don't know how they do it in the UK, but in many North American places, the random large corporation providing high-speed residential/small-biz services don't WANT to offer tiered services. Oh, sure, they have a few tiers that differ on speed (and sometimes monthly bandwidth restrictions), but that's it, and that's all they want to do. These providers like providing the same thing to everybody (for example, if you get X POP3 accounts with your service, and you need X+1, they will NOT sell you an extra POP3 for $2/month or whatever), because it reduces cost, and they do NOT give a damn about the technologically-skilled user who wants to run their own small-scale $PROTOCOL server, etc. It's not a matter of "give us $Y and we'll do/let you do it", it's a "you can't do that. End of story." from their outsourced tech support guy. The "go elsewhere" argument against big impersonal ISPs that aren't able to match your needs isn't workable for many people, as was pointed out. For some people, the best solution is to buy IP connectivity from the big ISP, avoid using any of their other services (yes, I have fetchmail download mail from my POP3 at my ISP, but do I _use_ that account for anything? Obviously not), and do your own thing. If you advocate restricting this IP connectivity further, then you're screwing such people over, and possibly creating a big market for people on Mr. Vixie's list of colo providers... Vivien -- Vivien M. vivienm@dyndns.org Assistant System Administrator Dynamic Network Services, Inc. http://www.dyndns.org/