On 12/6/24 10:31, Saku Ytti wrote:

In the EU at least you cannot do that, you can't use the same conduits
for data and power. But it's been in the code for a long time now to
have ethernet upon delivery, both CAT6a (rooms) and fiber (just a
single place is enough, I think).

I am using after-build conduits that are running either along the outside wall of the house, or lying on the roof (I have a flat roof). I am not using any of the electrical conduits that were burned into the concrete structure at the time of build. So these are carrying only Ethernet. No power or anything else.

The coax for my satellite TV service is running its own conduit, also after-build. This is what most houses do in Africa, since any house that was built with in-built coax has only occurred in the last 10 years, while satellite TV services have been around since the early 90's.

Personally I think the code is wrong, because the ethernet ports are
next to power sockets at floor level, or at TV level in bedrooms in
some countries. I think it's a niche use-case that people actually use
wired ethernet to connect devices, and we shouldn't codify for
minorities. I think code should include radio design, and put ports
near lamps where radio design says AP should be, I think this would
cater to the majority need. Minority can figure out their custom
design.

I agree. Most people rely on wi-fi to hook up their stationery devices. And then complain when all the buffering starts to occur, but let's leave that alone for now :-).

Personally, anything that does not move (TV, PS5, Apple TV, Roku, satellite STB, A/V receiver, e.t.c.) gets a cable. The only devices we run on wi-fi are the mobile ones... laptops, cellphones, SIP-based hard phones, iPads, IoT devices, e.t.c.

The ethernet ports are used so rarely, at least in my market it is
normal to get termination delivered so wrong, you can only get 100M
out of CAT6A (all 8 wires connected). And no one in the market appears
to understand that just testing for conductivity isn't good enough or
even understand the problem when described. So consumers are happily
buying that >100M Internet, but will never get more than 100M, because
they have poor termination.

At least you get termination... what I am seeing in some houses in my market is the actual port and its housing are installed by the developer, but there is nothing connected at the back. By the time you realize there is no wire in the wall, or un-crimped wire at the back of the port, you've lost a day upgrading your router OS thinking it forgot how to go "port up/up".

Mark.